Roster Building thread - Part X - (TDL edition)

Machinehead · 2024-05-20T13:10:40-0400

Savant said:
Maybe it’s just me but maybe with the current roster in ECF we should focus on that instead of dumpster-ing our players

Focusing on the ECF means having to watch Kakko play hockey, which leads back to dumpstering him.

Savant · 2024-05-20T13:13:57-0400

Machinehead said:
Focusing on the ECF means having to watch Kakko play hockey, which leads back to dumpstering him.

Bbbbbut the fancy stats

TheGortonConspiracy · 2024-05-20T13:15:14-0400

Is Wheeler better than Roslovic? I’m not sure he is, or that swapping him in now is worth the risk of changing chemistry in the lineup.

Not sure where else he would play. Unless you sit Kakko. Is that the most likely spot for Wheeler?

Machinehead · 2024-05-20T13:15:37-0400

Savant said:
Bbbbbut the fancy stats

It's weird how analytics only matter when people run to defend Kakko.

It doesn't matter that Kreider blows everyone away all the time whenever the board decides to be mad at him.

Machinehead · 2024-05-20T13:16:37-0400

TheGortonConspiracy said:
Is Wheeler better than Roslovic? I’m not sure he is, or that swapping him in now is worth the risk of changing chemistry in the lineup

If this team could skate, I would have very little patience for Roslovic, but they can't so he's probably needed.

He's not really bad, he's just annoying.

Savant · 2024-05-20T13:24:36-0400

TheGortonConspiracy said:
Is Wheeler better than Roslovic? I’m not sure he is, or that swapping him in now is worth the risk of changing chemistry in the lineup.

Not sure where else he would play. Unless you sit Kakko. Is that the most likely spot for Wheeler?

Would think about the Vesey spot. Don’t care about the PK’ing; he has been terrible for months

n8 · 2024-05-20T13:50:09-0400

TheGortonConspiracy said:
Is Wheeler better than Roslovic? I’m not sure he is, or that swapping him in now is worth the risk of changing chemistry in the lineup.

Not sure where else he would play. Unless you sit Kakko. Is that the most likely spot for Wheeler?

I feel like if you don't play Roslovic on the 1st line (his play has been awful IMO) you don't play him anywhere. He doesn't fit in the lineup anywhere else.

mrmovies779 · 2024-05-20T14:01:50-0400

n8 said:
I feel like if you don't play Roslovic on the 1st line (his play has been awful IMO) you don't play him anywhere. He doesn't fit in the lineup anywhere else.

Awful?that's certainly a take.Without him last game,we don't come back to beat the Canes.He and Mika had some great plays on Kreiders goals.The hate this guy gets is unreal

Savant · 2024-05-20T15:26:08-0400

mrmovies779 said:
Awful?that's certainly a take.Without him last game,we don't come back to beat the Canes.He and Mika had some great plays on Kreiders goals.The hate this guy gets is unreal

I mean he can skate fast in a straight line but he can’t do anything else. But that’s kind of what they need him to do. Him and Wennberg kind of both one trick ponies. I hope neither are brought back but glad they are filling roles at the moment I guess

GoAwayPanarin · 2024-05-20T15:50:00-0400

Hard to really brand Roslovic as awful.

He was huge in game 1, one of our best skaters in game 2 and then in the middle of 2 of the 3 Kreider goals in game 6 vs Carolina.

Is he flawed? Yeah 100%.

Has he made a positive impact on this run so far? Also yes. Way more positive than bad.

SA16 · 2024-05-20T16:21:50-0400

TheGortonConspiracy said:
Is Wheeler better than Roslovic? I’m not sure he is, or that swapping him in now is worth the risk of changing chemistry in the lineup.

Not sure where else he would play. Unless you sit Kakko. Is that the most likely spot for Wheeler?

The most likely guy to come out if they put both Chytil and Wheeler in is Cuylle. He and Kakko are the only two forwards who have no special teams role. Cuylle is the one who has been demoted to L4 with Chytil back and last time that happened he got 6 minutes. He's not used in late game situations to defend leads. Kakko is also better. Cuylle's play has been fine but he has also provided no offense. He has 3 points in the last 3 months.

JohnC · 2024-05-20T16:28:56-0400

Roslovic may be pretty one dimensional, but his one dimension (carrying the puck through the neutral zone with speed and thus being able to break a trap) is infinitely more valuable to this team than someone like Frank Vatrano whose only dimension was shooting the puck.

One is a player this roster’s lacked for years, the other a player Rangers fans have way fonder memories of than I do and were willing to give up a 1st (!) round pick for.

Machinehead · 2024-05-20T16:41:28-0400

GoAwayPanarin said:
Hard to really brand Roslovic as awful.

He was huge in game 1, one of our best skaters in game 2 and then in the middle of 2 of the 3 Kreider goals in game 6 vs Carolina.

Is he flawed? Yeah 100%.

Has he made a positive impact on this run so far? Also yes. Way more positive than bad.

He's another Frank Vatrano.

80% of the time I'm like "what the f*** is this thing?"

But he creates goals.

Blue Blooded · 2024-05-20T16:49:06-0400

Machinehead said:
He's another Frank Vatrano.

80% of the time I'm like "what the f*** is this thing?"

But he creates goals.

I agree with the general comparison but Roslovic has been much better. Vatrano wired one top cheddar every 5th game and that was it. But he seemed like a great guy and buzzed around the ice like crazy so everyone loved him.

IDvsEGO · 2024-05-20T17:06:20-0400

JohnC said:
Roslovic may be pretty one dimensional, but his one dimension (carrying the puck through the neutral zone with speed and thus being able to break a trap) is infinitely more valuable to this team than someone like Frank Vatrano whose only dimension was shooting the puck.

One is a player this roster’s lacked for years, the other a player Rangers fans have way fonder memories of than I do and were willing to give up a 1st (!) round pick for.

Sure but that’s a dimension chytil also provides.

CLW · 2024-05-20T17:06:42-0400

Blue Blooded said:
I agree with the general comparison but Roslovic has been much better. Vatrano wired one top cheddar every 5th game and that was it. But he seemed like a great guy and buzzed around the ice like crazy so everyone loved him.

The Panthers are more likely to bring out the "bad" side of Roslovic, the bad turnovers etc. as I don't think he'll have the same time and space in this series. But that remains to be seen of course.

KirkAlbuquerque · 2024-05-20T17:11:27-0400

Machinehead said:
He's another Frank Vatrano.

80% of the time I'm like "what the f*** is this thing?"

But he creates goals.

Roslovic is no star and has a lot of flaws but the things he’s good at are things that no one else on the team is very good at at.

Same thing with Vatrano.

JohnC · 2024-05-20T17:12:59-0400

IDvsEGO said:
Sure but that’s a dimension chytil also provides.

I’d prefer to have as much of that dimension on the roster as possible knowing the team’s struggles with it in the past, but that’s just me.

Machinehead · 2024-05-20T17:22:34-0400

JohnC said:
I’d prefer to have as much of that dimension on the roster as possible knowing the team’s struggles with it in the past, but that’s just me.

Yeah, this is not a team that's in a position to say "we have enough scoring" or "we have enough puck movement."

The more, the better.

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