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Series Talk: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2024

Chileiceman

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Both Vegas and Dallas have better coaching than Bowness and Winnipeg. In regular season you kind of just play your game and teams don't prepare that much to adjust in accordance to what the other team is going throw at them. Playoffs are different beast because you play the same team over and over again. Bowness had 0 answers for Colorado's transition game and Colorado tightened things up in the neutral zone and defending the blue line after game 1.

Peter Deboer is an experienced coach who will have his team prepared for what Colorado is going to throw at them. They've done a good job at slowing a loaded Vegas team down as their series has progressed.

Colorado has wiped the floor with teams in the 1st round before only to really struggle once they face better prepared teams (2019 - killed Calgary, lost to San Jose; 2020 destroyed Arizona, lost to Dallas [yes, I know Bowness was the coach]; 2021 absolutely annhilated St. Louis, then feebly lost to Vegas, IMO Bednar's worst coaching performance in his tenure here). The difference now is that they've won it all, and have that experience and confidence to fall back on. Another huge difference is we have scoring depth, which we only ever had in the Cup year.
 
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Chileiceman said:
Both Vegas and Dallas have better coaching than Bowness and Winnipeg. In regular season you kind of just play your game and teams don't prepare that much to adjust in accordance to what the other team is going throw at them. Playoffs are different beast because you play the same team over and over again. Bowness had 0 answers for Colorado's transition game and Colorado tightened things up in the neutral zone and defending the blue line after game 1.

Peter Deboer is an experienced coach who will have his team prepared for what Colorado is going to throw at them. They've done a good job at slowing a loaded Vegas team down as their series has progressed.

Colorado has wiped the floor with teams in the 1st round before only to really struggle once they face better prepared teams (2019 - killed Calgary, lost to San Jose; 2020 destroyed Arizona, lost to Dallas [yes, I know Bowness was the coach]; 2021 absolutely annhilated St. Louis, then feebly lost to Vegas, IMO Bednar's worst coaching performance in his tenure here). The difference now is that they've won it all, and have that experience and confidence to fall back on. Another huge difference is we have scoring depth, which we only ever had in the Cup year.
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The Avs aren't remotely the team that crapped out in rd 2 every year.

If the Avs play their game and force Dallas or Vegas to play fast hockey, they have a great chance, as they are both like to play slow grind it out hockey.

I'd we play the 20-25 shots slow hockey we are screwed. Got to push offense and fire 30+ shot every game and make them skate hard 200ft. Dallas and Vegas won't be able to keep up if we put skating pressure on them.
 
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chet1926 said:
The Avs aren't remotely the team that crapped out in rd 2 every year.

If the Avs play their game and force Dallas or Vegas to play fast hockey, they have a great chance, as they are both like to play slow grind it out hockey.

I'd we play the 20-25 shots slow hockey we are screwed. Got to push offense and fire 30+ shot every game and make them skate hard 200ft. Dallas and Vegas won't be able to keep up if we put skating pressure on them.
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I agree with this and if the Avs do, that is when Vegas' or Dallas' goons will try to take over.
 
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Seems like it's been forever since I've see a true line brawl in a playoff game.

Tonight seems about as good a time for that to change as any.
 
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Yeah, that ref performance last night in Edmonton was one of the worst of the entire season and it had to come in the playoffs. Shameful.
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Feel like I have to start with, I will always be an Avalanche fan. However, I've become much less a fan of the NHL over the last several years. Some of that is because I've chosen to spend my time on other things (outside of Avs games of course). But even the decision to invest my time into other things was largely due to how terribly officiating games have become.

Every blown call results in a PP that shouldn't have happened or one that should have. Special teams often determine the outcomes of games. When I think of the number of blown calls in a game (both ways mind you) I can't help but believe that the refs are truly having a larger influence on the outcome of games than we realize. The NHL has a very real problem on their hands with how tied they are to gambling and how bad their refs are.
 
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Bender said:
These playoffs have some eerily similar traits to 2022 :

- Avs handily take care of their 1st round opponent (NSH '22 / WPG '24)
- Avs have a much tougher opponent in round #2 (STL '22 / DAL '24)

- Loilers face a crappy 1st round opponent LA '22 & '24
- Loilers set to face a cakewalk opponent in round #2 (CAL '22 / VAN '24)

I'm sure ALL of their fans will have forgotten about 2022 by the time they finish off whoever they face in round 2 and they'll boldly boast that they cannot be stopped....yet again.
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Just wait until you realize who beat WPG in the first round last year...

:naughty::nod::thumbu::cool:
 
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expatriatedtexan said:
Feel like I have to start with, I will always be an Avalanche fan. However, I've become much less a fan of the NHL over the last several years. Some of that is because I've chosen to spend my time on other things (outside of Avs games of course). But even the decision to invest my time into other things was largely due to how terribly officiating games have become.

Every blown call results in a PP that shouldn't have happened or one that should have. Special teams often determine the outcomes of games. When I think of the number of blown calls in a game (both ways mind you) I can't help but believe that the refs are truly having a larger influence on the outcome of games than we realize. The NHL has a very real problem on their hands with how tied they are to gambling and how bad their refs are.
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The NHL has had a real problem with their officials for years and that jackass piece-of-shit tim peel basically confirmed what we all already knew. Imagine the moron being mic-ed 'up and is too stupid to remember he is mic'ed up and actually tells his younger ref partner that "he wanted to give the predators a penalty early in the game".

Actually when I think about it, I think he's too stupid to actually understand why that's SO wrong. The sad part is, that sack-of-crap influenced and mentored younger referees into thinking this is the way to do it.

The NHL never really owned up to that atrocity and quietly swept it under the rug as best they could even though they fired his dumb-ass.
 
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